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:::: As far as the idiom I mixed a French and an English one. What I meant is splitting hairs. --[[User:Leziad|Leziad]] ([[User talk:Leziad|talk]]) 21:44, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
::::: '''The bluez in the dungeon:'''
::::: '''"you are using mainly the argument that the explanation given in a splatbook isn't as valid as the core material since players can simply ignore it"'''
::::: That is not an argument I am using. My actual reasons for calling splatbooks less valid (for some value of the word 'valid'):
::::: 1. WotC indicated that they were less valid. (Players Handbook, page 5, "WHAT YOU NEED TO PLAY")
::::: 2. Splatbook material is much more likely to be ignored than core material.
::::: '''"you are arguing that on a homebrew wiki: to make content oriented to the maximum number of players isn't the goal of the site" '''
::::: People who post homebrew here want it to be used. Homebrew that more people can use is more apt to be used.
::::: '''"the use of an extensive homebrew wiki is even more niche than a splatbook"'''
::::: I've seen this claim made on the internet before. Do you have actual evidence?
::::: '''"(and who even plays 3.5e nowadays)" '''
::::: Enough people to make this conversation worth having.
::::: '''"for the public this is intended for," '''
::::: Which appears to be all players/DMs of the listed editions of D&D. No splatbook purchase requirements are implied. If splatbook purchase requirements were intended for using this wiki, wouldn't the Main Page of this wiki have said so?
::::: '''"mostly wiki-users, and more generally those that are knowledgeable about the system"'''
::::: Whether one understands this feat does not depend on whether one is a wiki-user or knowledgeable about 3.5, but rather one's splat-book purchases.
::::: '''"it should be a time to learn" '''
::::: I in fact am learning from this discussion.
::::: '''"not argue"'''
::::: I find argument useful for learning.
::::: '''Leziad: '''
::::: '''"some material being vague can actually be somewhat helpful, at least within reason. It allows each group to make an individual decision on the "'''
::::: While unclear rules can certainly have this benefit, and writing rules that do this is very appropriate for D&D, I question whether inclarity about which alignment system this feat assumes has this benefit.
::::: '''"any doubt that you can burn down an orphanage with an evil fire elemental"'''
::::: I now agree that on a careful reading there isn't any, and that your feat's opening wording is merely weirdly redundant. I am taking your word that using the splatbooks you mention would make it unredundant, since I don't care whether or not they would. (Certainly not enough to acquire PDFs of them.)
::::: My apologies for the uncareful reading that started this conversation in the manner it did.
::::: '''"What I meant is splitting hairs"'''
::::: In that case: What distinctions are you calling small and unnecessary? [[User:Ideasmith|Ideasmith]] ([[User talk:Ideasmith|talk]]) 22:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
