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:: Right, but then why include the vest of legends if it only doubles the base? I've asked around for a second opinion on the calculation and someone else said that words of creation might double everything except the Badge of Valor, since they all apply before you begin the Bardic Music effect and the Badge of Valor is activated afterwards. [[Special:Contributions/24.127.27.4|24.127.27.4]] 02:26, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
::: Because it implicitly increases the base. It increases your effective bard level. It's not part of the series of +1s afterwards. It can't be "doubled" because it's just a straight increase. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] ([[User talk:Ghostwheel|talk]]) 12:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
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