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:::: I don't want to go through every one of them and start two-dozen debates... how opposed would you be to bumping up the effective balance level of all of them (with a cap of VH of course) for a start? I think that would give us a rough estimate, and we can go on from there on specifics. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 07:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::If you want to have a general discussion that it would be appropriate to boost all of them, this would be an appropriate place to start lining up evidence I suppose. But without that evidence and some sort of consensus that it supports the position, I'm extremely opposed to the idea. Most of them were balanced to the "like any other feat" standard in the beginning, since you did most of the initial tagging, and I don't see what has changed since then. Spot fixes seems more appropriate as a result I think. There are a couple that I argued about dropping recently, and those could go up probably. Leziad's thing is certainly substantially better than H in the current context, for example, but there will likely be discussion on any of your fluff feat if they went up. The 1 that I linked earlier Surgo agreed was M, as were Aarnott's similar scaling ones. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] <sup>[[User talk:Tarkisflux|Talk]]</sup> 07:22, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
