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:::Yes, that was the consensus view - evaluate as a package just like every other feat. I'm pretty sure that's what not having a different balance guideline means. Feel free to start balance arguments over whichever ones you want on their talk pages, change yours to what you think they are so we can argue about them on their talk pages, whatever. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] <sup>[[User talk:Tarkisflux|Talk]]</sup> 06:17, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:::: I don't want to go through every one of them and start two-dozen debates... how opposed would you be to bumping up the effective balance level of all of them (with a cap of VH of course) for a start? I think that would give us a rough estimate, and we can go on from there on specifics. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 07:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
