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:That may have been overly antagonistic, and if so, I'm sorry. In all seriousness, I do not see a non-playstyle argument from either GW or Leziad. I'm more than willing to listen to further explanations, but I fundamentally do not think immunities are bad design, or bad for the game. - [[User:Spanambula|Spanambula]] ([[User talk:Spanambula|talk]]) 01:14, 6 February 2017 (MST)
:: First, no offense taken. I have no problems against immunities at all. I am just saying either the feat is going to fuck over a PC on a monster or it will see less use than toughness. I do not like when immunity-ignoring stuff is overused, it a very special ability for a very specialized class (usually). Even when it is used, it typically ignoring resistance and halving immunity, so there is sill a severe damage drop, but not enough so that you are helpless. I am absolutely not saying that this feat deserve 0 because it bad game design, rather this feat get 0 because it does not work. The DM would need to do specific work for the feat to be working, like sending a high level pyromaniac or a flame phoenix against the party, and having to do special work for a feat is kinda crazy.
:: Now anecdotally I have a story. I know a player who had this feat for the entire game, and it just so happened that it never got used once. It was a game where tome material and homebrew material was rife, it just never came up. In fact I accidentally used hellfire damage on said PC, without realizing he had the feat. In fact, the player who would have had better mileage out of regular SRD feats. That player also could bypass resistance and halves immunity, which came up quite often because the SRD just give immunity to fucking everything. The player simply took True Immunity for flavor reason. In fact the bad girl at the very had the ability to bypass immunities, which would be the first time the power would have come up. Except she could deal the same amount of damage in cold damage. Well shit. The story may seem familiar, because it was you who was the player. Im sorry. I really could not design around an entire party of minmaxed idiots, and you destroyed my helicopter boss in one full attack, so I feel a little justified.
:: That the crust of the problem, while it niche ability much like say Iaijustsu Focus. It passive, it cannot be used by itself. Now feats like toughness are also passive, but they come up all the time. This does not, if anything it a perfect example of a 'All or Nothing' feat. It either will be extremely effective to the point of neutralizing a danger by itself, but most of the time it just a dead feat. Immunities are fine. Bypassing Immunities is also fine. Both should be used reasonably. I am not even against the concept of this feat. But the problems I outlined above I think make it so that I cannot recommend it to anyone, DM or player. --[[User:Leziad|Leziad]] ([[User talk:Leziad|talk]]) 04:38, 6 February 2017 (MST)
