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::::::::And Ghost would probably call it a VH spell like glitterdust (and I'm not sure I'd disagree, though it's probably on the weak end). But as an "AoE blindness with damage and duration" for the cost of 5 spell levels, it's overpriced to remain at VH by enough that I"m comfortable with it being H. And that's based largely on the growth rate distinctions that are hinted at but not explicitly stated in the balance ranges (in that a sufficient delay can push it down a range), so I'm just quibbling with his position instead of something stronger. Suppose I should put in my own rating at this point actually... - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] <sup>[[User talk:Tarkisflux|Talk]]</sup> 00:35, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::I've been wanting to comment on this discussion further for a bit now but am still unable to really gather my thoughts on it in a formulated and cohesive way. Consider this all bonus grandpa ramblings. As for my earlier comment, yeah, I merely was after some clarification on the wording in Ghosty's rating. I suppose I'm in the boat of "if the counter has been available for many levels, that kinda bumps down the severity of any potential mean penalty". Calling out DM fiat has always felt kinda silly to me. DMs get final decision on anything brought to the game anyhow, and he should know what his party has access to. Basically everything is DM fiat. No access to stuff that by default should be available? That's going out of the way to increase stress on PCs... not really a benchmark of High games. After all, we're all gentlemen here... except Eiji, who is perhaps an enigma wrapped in a Snack-Pack.
:::::::::As for the spell itself, [[SRD:Environment#Smoke Effects|smoke effects]] feel like they'd be at home here, but that's probably overkill given the choice of wording given there that would appear that once you start coughing, you can't move and eventually just pass out. Guess that's it for now.--[[User:Ganteka Future|Ganteka Future]] ([[User talk:Ganteka Future|talk]]) 03:58, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
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