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::Entanglement doesn't appear very often, certainly not as much as "make a Reflex save". This is more benefit than bane, it's not evenly matched. -- [[User:Eiji-kun|Eiji-kun]] 04:36, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
== Still Crap ==
1 point of damage doesn't compare at ALL to +1 Ref. Make it at least 1 damage per HD you possess and work up from there. The penalty to drawbacks shouldn't just disappear with time. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 23:45, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
