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:This criticism about gear has been raised before, and we're still trying to define an alternate metric (I think I actually have something, I just need to implement it). That said, even without UMD the Rogue does get a 50/50 so that much is okay. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 03:17, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
::What tricks were pulled to have a rogue actually survive through the level five encounters? Looking at it, it looks like a loss on all but two encounters. One of those "wins" was a 50/50 match up. This seems on par with a Fighter or Monk than it does against a Bard or factotum. Maybe you could tell me what you used to gague a rogue's effectiveness? Right now they are seeming like super specialized TW fighters who needs a flanker to be effective in the DPR department. [[User:Gangrian|Gangrian]] 03:49, 19 November 2010 (UTC)Gangrian
