User talk:Spazalicious Chaos/Magical Cosplayer (3.5e Class)

Lo, the Zodar

Not giving this a full review, but a point to be aware of, particularly when giving open ended things, is unintended consequences. Note the Zodar found in Fiend Folio, page 199. Be aware that being able to summon it (ablit at ECL 18) will give you Wish whenever you want, no cost. I'm sure there's other abuses, but I've not looked into them yet. -- Eiji-kun 01:12, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

At 20th level it would be available, and by then there is already wish flingers everywhere. And that be a very specific circumstance. I was thinking more of avoiding cosplayers just donning a mech suit whenever they were facing something poisonous or a rogue, hence the "do not gain construct traits" thing.

Also, this is a monster class when you get down to it. There is nothing this class can do to break the game that a wizard can't do with polymorph and sooner. Thus, unless someone out there makes a LA 0 adamantine coated null monster template, I'm sure that the cosplayer will not kill a game.--Change=Chaos. Period. SC 01:18, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Then why is it Rogue level? Though, IMO, it is either Wizard or Unquantifable. Probably the latter. -- Eiji-kun 02:06, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

++To Eiji. You get "wish flingers everywhere" in wizard-level games. Not rogue-level ones. --Ghostwheel 02:35, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

You get them in rogue games, too. It's just rogue wishers are A) one trick ponies, B) get it as a very late game ability, such 20+, or C) the wish is limited. Like, only if you are in a particular circumstance and only if nothing else can get in your way... huh, the cosplayer fits in that category. However, you did inadvertantly draw my attention to yet another advantage mecha suit has over costume.--Change=Chaos. Period. SC 02:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

And done. Now the Zodar argument goes into effect at around level 25 by my math, at which point the balancing rules break down in every direction anyway. Also, the number of mechs you can have in your hammer space garage is severely limited.--Change=Chaos. Period. SC 02:50, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Using wish by it's very nature makes the character in question rather antithetical to a one-trick pony. Wish lets you do pretty much whatever you want within its rules, which is a lot. - TG Cid 08:05, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Btw where are you getting ECL 20th and 25th? It says "a construct of a CR your lvl -2". Zodar is CR 16. -- Eiji-kun 08:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

And meduim sized. Uber mecha leaps that up to CR 23.--Change=Chaos. Period. SC 17:32, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Wish is basically the upper bounding definition of wizard level. Yeah. Wizard level has an UPPER bound and it is wish. Anything past that can be called Pun-Pun level: you are not playing a game at that point. Period. Don't be stupid. --Aarnott 18:04, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Read the prerequisites, sir

Pathetisad requires a prior morale penalty. Something which could not possibly have happened for a level 1 character. --Foxwarrior 02:14, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Any recommended replacemnt?--Change=Chaos. Period. SC 02:37, 6 December 2011 (UTC)