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:::::::Careful, Spaz. You may incite an [[Talk:Gadgeteer_(3.5e_Class)|Eiji Rant]]. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 21:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 
::::::::Sigh... I'll get the barbeque sauce and the pike...--Change=Chaos. Period. [[User:Spazalicious Chaos| SC]] 02:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Back on topic, I have included Class Uniforms- base at 2nd level and Prestige at 11th. That should get a good mix of varied abilities in there.--Change=Chaos. Period. [[User:Spazalicious Chaos| SC]] 00:34, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Alright, the cosplayer now has some weapon skill on top of uniforms and therefore is firmly wizard level. Anything else?--Change=Chaos. Period. [[User:Spazalicious Chaos| SC]] 00:50, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Due to lack of reponse, I refitted costume assuming power is the issue. I have also given the cosplayer a utility skill ability, though the scaling is uncertain.--Change=Chaos. Period. [[User:Spazalicious Chaos| SC]] 02:11, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::::::Good additions. I'm going to remove the delete template because you are improving it :). I still have reservations about both the Chibi and Costume abilities, which I will address below. But the weapon mastery, fluffy goodness to disguise, and class level costumes are great additions.
 
:::::::::The problem with Chibi isn't that it is meant to be a "self gimping that helps allies", it is that it doesn't actually help the allies on its own (well not much). Reducing the effects of fear is all that it does on its own (and, with the penalty of increasing them on you). Note that, technically, increasing it by one degree on you also means that you immediately become shaken when you go chibi. The double morale boost does absolutely nothing unless you actually have someone providing a morale boost. And, as cool as that would be with inspire courage, it means you actually need 2 players being support characters. And, in addition to that, any bard playing in a wizard level game will '''definitely''' have a way to do stuff while they are inspiring. They will also have their inspire doubled already with the Words of Creation feat.
:::::::::My suggestion for Chibi is to make it do something good. If you are going to give up offensive actions, you should be buffing your allies enough as if you were still contributing! There are lots of different ways you could do this. Maybe grant all allies in some range (probably short) an extra swift and/or move action each turn. You can still keep your morale doubling. The point is, turning Chibi shouldn't make you a huge liability, otherwise players of this class won't want to use it.
 
:::::::::Costume has the same issues I addressed above and I can't really spell it out much more clearly. If an ability is going to be your main source of power, it needs to be more than 1/day at 1st level. Also, creature templates (especially) are not well designed and are generally a bad idea to give PCs. I know you feel that having things unbalanced is fine as far as the flavor suits (with regard to the race with +32 int I described above), but I feel that I can speak on behalf of the general wiki community here and say that is not a philosophy we accept here. It is part of our [[Dungeons and Dragons Wiki:Content Requirements|Content Requirements]] to have things decently balanced. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 16:13, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::Chibi has been changed up, twice. Costume, I can help but feel that if templates are as dangerous as you make them out to be, they ''have'' to stay at once per day at first level. To do otherwise would put this back into pun-pun level, and threatening deletion would get old really fast after a while.
:::::::::::As for why templates, there is simply more variety to to templates than any list of pregenerated costumes could have. Granted, I could track them all down and make them player safe, but that would take time and resources I don't have.--Change=Chaos. Period. [[User:Spazalicious Chaos| SC]] 19:03, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
== Class Uniform? ==
:::Pathfinder isn't exactly a reference that would draw favorable comparisons. Be careful what you wish for. - [[User:ThunderGod Cid|TG Cid]] 04:53, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
::::Not comparing, just stating that the Pathfinder template system is comprehensive and easy to use, albeit at the cost of the rest of the Pathfinder system as it compares to D&D.--Change=Chaos. Period. [[User:Spazalicious Chaos| SC]] 05:09, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::That's not exactly what I meant. Pathfinder doesn't really have a sterling reputation in this particular circle of people, so suggesting that you may be basing a class off of their rules or, as you say, making "a PF class" may not fly well if you want a good reception here. To say we have reservations with what Pathfinder suggests for rule changes would be an understatement. - [[User:ThunderGod Cid|TG Cid]] 18:16, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 
==Rating==
 
{{Rating|rater=MisterSinister|rating=dislike|reason=You know, I could lay out the fact that as-written, hemaphrodites or asexual creatures taking this class either have every proficiency ever or none whatsoever. Or the fact that its main ability doesn't work at all as intended, as the wording means you can never learn any new costumes. Or the fact that this has polymorph abuse written all over it. Or the fact that when you don a class costume, you keep its stats forever. But this all pales in comparison to the fact that, on a strict reading of the Chibi ability, your best action is ''fucking pissing on people while being a midget''. This is offensive on a level I can hardly describe, and to be honest, even April Fools is too good for this shitty excuse for a class. I actually want the time I spent analyzing this utter pile of shit back.
 
But luckily, all hope is not lost! If you go [[Cosplayer (3.5e Class)|here]], you will find a much better, saner and less scatologically-focused interpretation of this concept. So, yeah. Do that instead of reading this shit.}}
 
{{Rating|rater=Ghostwheel|rating=dislike|reason=What MS said. The class just... doesn't work at all, on a closer reading (ugh).}}
 
{{Rating|rater=ThunderGod Cid|rating=dislike|reason=Echoing above sentiments, with particular emphasis on being the walking, Fine-size mass buffer/debuffer.}}
 
{{Rating|rater=Foxwarrior|rating=dislike|reason=If the creature templates are assumed to be balanced for the LAs they use, then getting a small template for less than a minute a couple of times per day is far from being an ability that can make your character useful in a Very High campaign. If they aren't, this is a terrible dumpster-diving class. Chibi is funny, but doubling bonuses of unspecified size is certain to be some stupid RNG-breaking nonsense when used properly. Weapon Skill only matters at this balance point when using it to get Tome Combat feats, which likely have very little to do with swinging the weapon. Bind Item should never be used with anything that doesn't have limited charges: a Ring of Three Wishes or a Wand of something would be very nice. Pet is wrong, wrong, wrong; a cohort is ''stronger'' than a familiar, not ''weaker''. Class Uniform is actually pretty decent; classes are already balanced to some extent, and half level means that you don't squash other players' characters. Of course, the increasing level adjustment means it's excessively amazing at levels 4 and 5 with Dual (like you'd ever only use two, ha!) Costume, before suddenly becoming much weaker at level 6, and then getting quite a bit stronger again at level 8. Does Dual Costume cost multiple uses? Since Mecha Suit cannot be changed, doesn't that mean that the only benefit you get for increasing in level is HD advancement, which gives almost nothing you care about? And what's the reasoning behind making all of these abilities have such tiny durations?}}
 
{{Rating|rater=Franken Kesey|rating=dislike|reason=Do not need to over-iterate the numerous problems. You are getting worse.}}
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