Talk:Magic-User (3.5e Class)

Jesus. H. Batman.

This is...this...just makes all other casters basically obsolete, right? How is this not the strongest spellslinging class of all time? How is this not broken? -SecondDeath777 05:24, 17 February 2018

Neither arcane nor divine, allowing for both... has wizard, cleric and druid spell-lists. drops the increased time-cast from metamagic, while giving the finger to material components(this one's not that high on the list for me until 9th level spells), free minion(different from familiar/companion) and to max it off gets 10th level spell slots at level 19...
SecondDeath777 you are absolutely correct, this one class renders all other spellcasters 100% obsolete in every way. the only thing this class doesn't have is the wizards feat/5 levels. which even that's nowhere enough to compete! 10th level spells(epic spells) normally require level 20+ and the epic feat, this gets it free at level 19... while applying metamagic like a sorcerer and throwing spells around from arcane and divine...
It feels, like this was supposed to be a mix of all the spellcaster-classes with the intent to become a arcane/divine caster from the core, but because it included epic spells and all that bonus power... it became a spellcasting monstrosity which completely crushes the other's. the simple balance of this class is WAY too OP, ways to weaken this are too plentiful to list.Snafusam (talk) 12:37, 17 February 2018 (MST)

It has a really low amount of higher spell known, do not get any extra spell from high ability score and is highly limited in schools it can cast from. I saw one being played and it had trouble keeping up with a simple Pathfinder Oracle. --Leziad (talk) 14:51, 17 February 2018 (MST)