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Abusing leadership, craft checks, and aid another

Orc Barbarian 1/Orc Paragon 3/Something 1/Marshal 1

  • 16 starting cha +2 cloak of cha (+4 mod)
  • 19 starting str +2 gauntlets of ogre strength, +2 orc paragon (+6 mod)
  • Small keep as a possession
  • Pick Skill focus (diplomacy) before Marshal
    • Then get Leadership and Might Makes Right at level 6

Leadership score:

  • Pretend he gets the "Great Renown", "Fairness and Generosity", and "Special Power" score bonuses (+4 total)
  • 6 level, +6 str, +4 cha, +2 keep, +4 = 22
  • 75 level 1s, 7 level 2s, 4 level 3s, 2 level 4s, 2 level 5s, 1 level 6, level 4 cohort


The cohort (which is more likely to be allowed to be whatever you want):

Kenku Cleric 4

  • Pick craft skills exclusively (Alchemy, Armorsmith, Weaponsmith, Wicker Baskets)
  • Assume +2 int mod
  • Craft Domain (skill focus, +3 untyped)
  • Artifice Domain (+4 untyped)
  • +2 circumstance from MW crafting tools
  • +9 insight from Divine Insight (2nd level spell)
  • +3 from each follower (kenku racial) taking 10 on aid another = 91 * 3 = +273
  • 7 ranks
  • Total craft = +300 (310 on take 10)
  • Crafting (something, say alchemist's fire) with DC increased to 310 = 96100 sp per week
  • = 9610 gp per week
  • = 1372.85 gp per day
  • = 57.20 gp per hour
  • Over 2 alchemist's fires per hour (actually just under 3).

It gets crazier.

At level 9 - Extra Followers feat (leadership should be 25+ at this point)

  • 326 followers
  • Kenku cleric has 3 more levels giving +3 to ranks and divine insight.
    • Some magic stuff could probably be bought to get that higher, but who cares for now.
  • Extra +696 +6 = +702 to craft checks when aided
  • Total craft = +1002 (1012 on take 10)
  • With a DC 1010 craft: 1020100 sp per week
  • = 102010 gp per week
  • = 14572.85 gp per day
  • = 607.20 gp per hour
  • An alchemist's fire every 2 min.

If levels 7, 8, & 9 were Orc Warlord [1]:

  • 978 followers = +2934 craft
  • Total craft = +2967 (2977 with take 10)
  • With a DC 2977 craft: 8862529 sp per week
  • = 886252.9 gp per week
  • = 126607.55 gp per day
  • = 5275.31 gp per hour
  • = 87.92 gp per min
  • 4 alchemist's fires every minute

If you are allowed to craft epic alchemy items without the lame feat (or I suppose you could cheat it in with rogue 10), you can improve an alchemist's fire 148 times (if you could afford the one-third of 14,820 gp of materials = 4,940 gp), for a 149d6 grenade that splashes 149 squares (745 feet). Given the HP of rock, you could probably use one of these things to destroy a good portion of a castle. It's over a quarter-mile diameter that will basically be vaporized, after all.

Using GW's masterwork rules (which, incidentally is one of the lame reasons I played with these numbers), you can make a tier 986 masterwork. Of course, the cost would be absurd (approximately 3 digits per 10 tiers ==> 1 followed by 99 0s, which is just under a Googol [2]).

But with that Googol worth of gold, you could have an item that has its weight reduced by 24,650%. So Mithril Mountain Plate with armor spikes normally weighs 235 lbs, instead would weigh -57,810 lbs.

Okay, that is dumb. But this was fun to figure out.

If the main orc character takes 10 rogue levels and gets Legendary Commander, he'd have:

  • 9780 followers = +29340 craft
  • I'm sure +50 for the Kenku is reasonable at level 18, so total craft = 29400 when taking 10
  • With a DC 29400 craft: 864360000 sp per week
  • = 86436000 gp per week
  • = 12348000 gp per day
  • = 514500 gp per hour
  • = 8575 gp per min
  • = 142.91 gp per sec
  • 7 alchemist's fires every second

He'd be able to make a nuclear warhead: 1470d6 alchemist fire over 1470 square splash radius (7350 ft. or 1.39 miles). Or create an 8.35 mile wide sunrod effect that lasts just over a year (367.5 days).