User talk:Tarkisflux/Archive

Adoptions

• Sup Tarkis. Listen, I never really thanked you for adopting those old drafts of mine. So let me try to fix that. ...Thank you. Really. It's nice to think that a smart guy like yourself took an interest into making those better. I appreciate the effort. Good luck. Peace. --Jay Freedman 10:33, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem Jay, I liked where you were going with them. A less religious paladin and a more civilized ranger, the ideas appealed to me. I hope you will continue to be happy with how they are taken care of, and can still see your creative spark in them later when I make changes to fit them into the Tome of Prowess :-) - Tarkisflux 15:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Template

Hey Tarkis. Just curious about the template you were working on for me, and how it's coming along. MisterSinister 05:26, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

The template that you made is excellent, thanks! There's just one little thing - the Component line doesn't register the Slot component (Sl) for short. Could you add it, please? MisterSinister 18:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

This was a limitation of the Component property to avoid nonsense. Added it in. - Tarkisflux 18:57, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Upgraded to Optimus Eiji

Thanks! My golden pants return! -- Eiji-kun 08:51, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Call to Arms!

Your fine suggestion has made you the first to hear my request. I would like to extend that hospitality even further, by asking if you could look at either my: Sith/ Jedi (3.5e Class), Uongo-mijusi (3.5e Race), or Improved Slow Heart Beat (3.5e Feat). Thank you, kind sir, for rational advice and promptness. --Franken Kesey 00:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Promptness. Pfft. - Tarkisflux 01:11, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

A Favor

I know I used up all my favors a long time ago, so I only ask of one more. I am personally requesting this favor from Tarkisflux, Eiji-kun, NameViolation, and Ganteka Future - but if any hospitable user wishes to answer the call I am open. I had incorrectly understood that this wiki (meaning the last one as well) was intended as a community work space, and everyone had a voice. One that was not to be squandered over trivial matters. But have found over time that name and name alone separate it from the paleo-wiki. You changed the address, but the bankers are all the same. Most of the users here are not schmucks, but it only takes a few. So I have grown tired of these "rational thinkers", these couch potatoes who don't know squat. So I will be formally leaving this wiki. And am asking if someone could look after what little work I leave behind. You four seem to be the wisest of the lot. Not using this wiki as a front for acting smart. I can take a certain amount abuse - and have played the mad for some time. But the stuff here is utterly intolerable. Thank you, and good luck - the madness has been the only way I've stayed sane. --Franken Kesey 06:15, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Tark's you were more than right about rating requests. The old wiki was a lot more hospitable - should have listened.

For what it's worth, I'm sorry. I don't want anyone to feel pushed out. Good luck to you as well; I'll try to keep your spirit alive in your work. - Tarkisflux 06:23, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, remember madness is bliss. What goes down must come up --Franken Kesey 22:44, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Wiki-Code

Heya, mind helping me create a template for G4e classes? Basically it's similar to 4e classes, but the following need to be in the startup box:

• Role
• Key Ability
• Armor Proficiencies
• Weapon Proficiencies
• Bonus to Defense
• HP per level
• Trained Skills
• Class Skills
• Universal Class Features

Everything else in the 4e box is unneeded; TK showed me this, but I've got no idea where to start. Mind helping me out? Thanks! --Ghostwheel 22:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, TK helped me out--though if you don't mind, please keep an eye on the work and let me know if anything can be expanded on, thanks! --Ghostwheel 22:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Some Help With Breadcrumbing

As you have noticed, I've (finally!) done all the updates for Chapters 1 and 4. This has led to multiple subpages, for which I believe breadcrumbs would be good. However, I don't know how to write them (I only wrote the basic TOToM one with a lot of instruction), and would appreciate some help if you could. Thanks. - MisterSinister 19:27, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I actually wanted to talk to you about some of those. If you're happy with the current org I can breadcrumb them, but I think you may have gone a bit overboard on the subpaging. While spell list subpages are good, I'm not sure that anything is gained by requiring people to click through to sub-sub-subpages to find tag stuff. - Tarkisflux 20:21, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I suspect I may have gone a bit overboard, but at the same time, they take up a lot of space, and the pages end up being horribly long if I include them. Ideally, I'd prefer to only have one 'tier' of subpages on my pages, as it would not only make breadcrumbing easier, it would also be a lot less user-end annoying. How do you think I should do it? - MisterSinister 21:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm with you on the length, but I think you also have stuff in places that feels weird to me. I think you may want to split SRP4 into two chapters, "Magic Overview" and "Spell Descriptions", and merge a fair bit of SRP1 into them. The "Schools and Tags" stuff really should be together with the spell descriptions stuff since that's where they show up, though schools could possibly be folded into magic overview if you wanted. I see no reason to have the tags split into two different subpages like they are now; if you want them on their own sub (which might be necessary even if I'm not overly fond of that setup) they should be all together. I'd split "Important Ability Elements" into those two sections as well, with any section name that also appears in the spell description being in that section (so, components, duration, etc.). Looking in two places for rules on components is not cool. The rest of the sections there look like they'd play better in the magic overview as either explanation before the process (ability types) or steps in the process (SR, saves, etc). - Tarkisflux 23:31, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

In terms of schools and tags, the reason I dragged them out of the spell chapter is that they apply to many different kinds of abilities now (not just spells and spell-likes - I plan to use them more with class abilities, for example), which means I wanted to have them put in a place that wasn't tied to spells. Putting the tags all on one page does make sense, so I'll give it a go.

In general, though, I am having organisational issues with most of my content, so I'll get onto addressing those as soon as I can figure out how I want them arranged. - MisterSinister 01:10, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Applying more tags to class abilities and whatnot makes sense. If that's the intent you might want to just make them their own chapter / page / whatever instead of tied to any of the specifically magic bits since it'll be referenced outside of spells. And maybe make it clear that they apply to abilities of all types, not just spells.

And I know org issues. I just resorted ToP because the order was unwieldy. If I have time later / tomorrow I might try to work up some mashups of your stuff in alternate order to help things along. - Tarkisflux 01:34, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Check out the new TOToM pages

You can find them in their own section on my userpage here. I decided I'll let you and Havvy edit them a bit before I upload them.

MisterSinister 20:20, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Black Lion Powers List

Dude, what is up with my list. I can't figure out why all the powers refuse to show up. Any ideas on what I did wrong? The asked categories should match up perfectly with the desired fetched powers? Man. I am lost. *shakes head* --Jay Freedman 02:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I assume you mean the higher level powers? Server just hadn't updated the query results. Sometimes it does it right away, sometimes it does it after a day or two. You can manually refresh it by using the wiki refresh page option (not the browser refresh) or by editting / saving without changes. I think they're all there now though. - Tarkisflux 05:05, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh thank goodness. I was twisting myself into hexagons trying to figure out what the problem was. Well, all better now eh. Sheesh. *stalks off to find food* --Jay Freedman 09:46, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

You should check out the powers page again. If you really want it to mimic WotC format you can embed the powers in the page instead of just linking them, though you will need to do a bit of noincluding on the powers to make it look pretty (see the 1st level ones I tweaked). It'll make the page long and dense, but I don't think there's any real way around that :-/ - Tarkisflux 16:20, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Speedy Delete

When were you planing on deleting speedy delete pages, here and on the old wiki? --Franken Kesey 22:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

One of these days. I've been out most of the week, but don't generally check that category anyway. - Tarkisflux 22:49, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Diminutive or Fine Races

Do you know of any diminutive or fine sized races? --Franken Kesey 17:27, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Not off the top of my head (aside from some homebrew that I wouldn't use). I don't think it's a valid size for a PC without substantial ECL to go along with it, and even then there are entire archetypes that just don't work because of the way 3.x handles size changes to physical damage. So even if I did know of them I probably wouldn't use or allow them unless everyone was playing the same size and they were only fighting super small enemies, they're just not a good fit for PCs without substantial campaign alterations. - Tarkisflux 17:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Viveka Spectre

Could you exume the User:Franken Kesey/Viveka Spectre(3.5e Prestige Class)? thanks --Franken Kesey 18:46, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Do you have the assosiated talk page on had? --Franken Kesey 19:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Nope, can't find it in the logs. It may have been removed from the archive, or it may be that the search function just can't find it. - Tarkisflux 19:08, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

It was likely deleted while we operated over at wikia, in which case, deleted articles were not imported over with the move. --Ganteka Future 19:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

It looks like the original was restored, then sandboxed, without the talk page. But I found the original talk page and just copied that over. It's just a restore move delete mess. - Tarkisflux 19:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Feat Types

How can I get the Skandar and Uongo-mijusi feat types on the glossary page? --Franken Kesey 20:05, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

You would need to make those pages and put them in the appropriate categories. It would probably be better to not make those though, and just change the type to Racial and keep the race as a prereq, as that's more standard in other work (including all of the WotC supplements). I've made the suggested change to Cold Retardant Fur (3.5e Feat) so you have an example. - Tarkisflux 21:53, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Spam Outbreak

While we can easily ban these damned spambots and delete their spam, wouldn't adding capcha or something similar to unregistered member editing and account creation greatly decrease spam or even eliminate entirely? Just an idea, I am assuming we have a reason for not doing it in the first place. --Leziad 05:13, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, we could add capchas to all unregistered contributions and pretty much kill it, but that is very likely to annoy and possibly drive off casual editors. I'm not actually convinced this is a bad thing on the homebrew side of things, but it's more problematic on the canon side and something we need to consider lots before doing. Other things we have in place that aren't working like they should are a module installed that will block pages containing specified urls. I've been updating the list with spam bits (though I'm not as consistent as I could be) which should block the pages from being created by anyone, registered or no, but the spam pages we're getting each use different urls so it's not doing all that much. We already have a math solving thingy for new account creation that functions sorta like capcha, but it's probably fairly easy to automate around. This is actually why you see the spam pages being added, then an account created, and then an image uploaded - because you need an account to upload an image. Stricter capchas on account creation are probably a good idea, but they won't stop the links in the first place :-/.

That's a summary of where we're at, and what some of the options I think we have are. I know Surgo's working on some stuff for this, and he's more up on the various extensions we could employ to reduce it than I am. I'll bug him about stronger account capchas for accoutn creation tomorrow, and see how he feels about capchas for unregistered contributions in general. I don't actually have server access to update this sort of thing, so it's all gotta go through him. - Tarkisflux 06:00, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

I see, so we need to try these options before considering capcha. It all make sense, in the mean whole I guess admins just need to be vigilant. Now stronger capcha for account creation would be very useful indeed, too bad I can't really help with the technical stuff. Anyway thanks for answering my question. --Leziad 06:41, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Btw, since it unnerves me so, whats the chance of us being able to auto-delete accounts which have never posted and have not done so in 3 months? I always imagine one day their vast bulk will awaken and mass spam. It's enough to give a plushie 'pam flashbacks an- *twitches and stops, looking behind the Recent Changes button. He swears he saw something.*

....I'm watching 'em. -- Eiji-kun 20:38, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't have the ability to delete accounts at all, so I have no idea what the chances of automating that are. I'll talk to Surgo about it though. - Tarkisflux ^Talk 21:09, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Citation again

Hello there! Now that I had scanned through DnDWiki's publications I felt ready to go into adapting canon articles again, but I am having new problems with the Template:Cite Pub, e. g. at Canon:Aerdy. The citation does not seem to work with a number of publication articles like Publication:Greyhawk Player's Guide, but am really slow on the uptake and cannot figure out where the problem lies. Could you please help me out? Thanks! Daranios 18:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Oddly, the issue was with the Publication Infobox template. It wasn't setting the title property on pages that lacked urls. Should be working now. - Tarkisflux 19:36, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Great! Thanks a lot. Daranios 07:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

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Email Confirmation Issues

If you're having issues getting your email confirmed, drop me a line below.

Before you do that though, please do the following:

• Enter an email address in the email field of the User Profile tab under "My Preferences", and click save. This will send you a confirmation email with a link to click.
• If you already have an email saved in your preferences, you can get a new confirmation email at Special:ConfirmEmail. If that page doesn't work, you can delete you saved email address, save the page, re-enter your email address, and then save again.
• Make sure to check your spam bin so you don't miss the email.
• Log out, and then log back into your account.

If you've done all that and you're still getting the capcha let me know. - Tarkisflux 21:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

[Edit] - There's an error in the capcha setup, and more users are probably getting it than not. Some email confirmed users who have done everything right are seeing it currently. We expect it to be resolved within 72 hours. Until then, I'm sorry for the arithmetic reviews :-( - Tarkisflux 02:43, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Math is hard and you are torturing us! Armond 23:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I only do it because your tears make me stronger :-D

I'm actually waiting on Surgo to double check a couple of things in the setup I don't have access to. Until then there's not a lot I can do :-( - Tarkisflux 17:33, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Yay learning! You know, I seem to get bothered more from the site notice than the captcha. Is that weird?The Dire Reverend 09:00, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

You know you can dismiss the site notice right? I eventually did, otherwise it'll stay up there like forever... -- Eiji-kun 09:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)