Talk:Umbral Hand (3.5e Feat)

you know... this tempts me to make a character with this feat and Lightsaber reserve feat... just so I can have a floating hand made of shadows wielding a sword made of light. :p Yllaeris (talk) 06:07, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

That's pretty cool.  :3 I'm Eiji and I approve this message (don't forget to add ~~~~ to sign your posts). -- Eiji-kun (talk) 05:08, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Earth Spell

Because Earth Spell abuse is so much fun, you can get this at 1st level (with flaws) if there exists a 0th level shadow descriptor spell. Human -> Earth Sense, Heighten Spell, Earth Spell, Umbral Hand. Use earth spell on a heightened 0th level to get a 2nd level spell slot. Fear the 14 Str/Dex shadow hand! --Aarnott (talk) 20:26, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually I can't think of a single shadow spell at lv 0 in any class list, book, or even homebrew... I suppose there MIGHT be one somewhere, but I doubt it given how the shadow spells I know of work.76.27.103.48 05:18, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

If memory serve there aren't any naturally but you can wiggle one in. Something about combining something that makes [Shadow] Silent Images and that method you get Silent Image as a cantrip somehow... Lots of loops to do that though. -- Eiji-kun (talk) 05:35, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Sounds like you would probably be high enough lvl to just take a 2nd level spell before you could pull it off... I REALLY hate these cat/dog photos... you can't always tell whether it counts or not. e_e76.27.103.48 05:53, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Why not log in bro? No catdogs there (unless you're from the Netherlands, for some reason Sulacu still fights with them logged in, gotta ask Surgo about that). But yes, practically speaking you'd be high enough level anyway so its moot. -- Eiji-kun (talk) 06:11, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

So far as I can tell, you only don't get the photos because you're a mod, Eiji. We normal members still have to deal with them. --Undead_Knave (talk) 08:26, 16 October 2013 (UTC)