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m (Sulacu moved page Talk:Deviant (3.5e Class) to Talk:Philosopher (3.5e Class): I've been putting off this change for far too long, but deviant is a ruddy class name!)
 
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I fail to see how this is Rogue level. Don't get me wrong, It's a great class. It's just that one has a hard time seeing how this is as useful as a Factotum or Warblade. It just seems more like Fighter level to me. {{unsigned|76.1.130.160}}
 
I fail to see how this is Rogue level. Don't get me wrong, It's a great class. It's just that one has a hard time seeing how this is as useful as a Factotum or Warblade. It just seems more like Fighter level to me. {{unsigned|76.1.130.160}}
  
:Full casting counts for a lot. I was actually about to suggest that it instead be Wizard-level, but the high number of divination spells (which, while useful in certain wizard-level games that allow scry-and-die tactics, are rarely direct wizard-level effects). I would put it on a similar pedastal as the warmage, which is a comfortably Rogue-level full caster. It also has a significantly highr number of class features than the warmage, although most of them appear intended to complement casting or exist for flavor. I think Rogue-level is a fair assessment. - [[User:ThunderGod Cid|TG Cid]] 01:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
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:Full casting counts for a lot. I was actually about to suggest that it instead be Wizard-level, but the high number of divination spells (which, while useful in certain wizard-level games that allow scry-and-die tactics, are rarely direct wizard-level effects). I would put it on a similar pedastal as the warmage, which is a comfortably Rogue-level full caster. It also has a significantly higher number of class features than the warmage, although most of them appear intended to complement casting or exist for flavor. I think Rogue-level is a fair assessment. - [[User:ThunderGod Cid|TG Cid]] 01:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 
::Makes sense. Thanks for taking time to explain that! --[[Special:Contributions/76.1.130.160|76.1.130.160]] 03:52, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 
::Makes sense. Thanks for taking time to explain that! --[[Special:Contributions/76.1.130.160|76.1.130.160]] 03:52, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
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I have been giving it some thought over the last few days and I wonder. The name 'deviant' is rather vague, isn't it? It doesn't really say a lot about what the class is all about. In fact, if you think about it for a while it's pretty clear the name doesn't really fit at all. So, because of this and since I am rather proud of this class, it being the only class I've made that doesn't blow goats, I raise the following question. Would this class benefit from a name change, to 'philosopher' or something similar? As with this change I will likely be tidying up the class features itself where necessary, and perhaps add or remove a few, criticism on the contents of the article itself is also greatly encouraged. Please feel free to post your ideas and suggestions here. --[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]] 00:08, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

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Balance Point[edit]

I fail to see how this is Rogue level. Don't get me wrong, It's a great class. It's just that one has a hard time seeing how this is as useful as a Factotum or Warblade. It just seems more like Fighter level to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.1.130.160 (talkcontribs) at

Full casting counts for a lot. I was actually about to suggest that it instead be Wizard-level, but the high number of divination spells (which, while useful in certain wizard-level games that allow scry-and-die tactics, are rarely direct wizard-level effects). I would put it on a similar pedastal as the warmage, which is a comfortably Rogue-level full caster. It also has a significantly higher number of class features than the warmage, although most of them appear intended to complement casting or exist for flavor. I think Rogue-level is a fair assessment. - TG Cid 01:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Makes sense. Thanks for taking time to explain that! --76.1.130.160 03:52, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

New Name?[edit]

I have been giving it some thought over the last few days and I wonder. The name 'deviant' is rather vague, isn't it? It doesn't really say a lot about what the class is all about. In fact, if you think about it for a while it's pretty clear the name doesn't really fit at all. So, because of this and since I am rather proud of this class, it being the only class I've made that doesn't blow goats, I raise the following question. Would this class benefit from a name change, to 'philosopher' or something similar? As with this change I will likely be tidying up the class features itself where necessary, and perhaps add or remove a few, criticism on the contents of the article itself is also greatly encouraged. Please feel free to post your ideas and suggestions here. --Sulacu 00:08, 27 March 2011 (UTC)