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:: Eww, didn't think of that; all the good stuff is hidden in the types and subtypes. I'm not sure if you can threaten or not vs. critically immune foes, some feats require a threat and work against immune foes, but it goes below divergence either way, unless two with one blow can threaten twice, and with my reading it doesn't. On other solutions, a non-lethal immune ally like a warforged with Improved Resiliency and Steadfast Determination would do instead of the ember. It'd require a low ac to hit though, and the setup would be even more fragile. How do I move this back to my sandbox correctly? -[[User:Cedges|Cedges]] 01:08, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
::: This is a murky area. I've read every mention of critical and threat in the PHB, the PHB errata, and the 3.5 Faq. The DMG burst weapons don't work on critical immune creatures because they require a "''successful'' critical hit", which the FAQ takes to be negated by critical immunity (page 54). The ones in the MIC that do work use the words "vulnerable to extra damage from critical hits". So a "''successful'' critical hit" is one that deals the extra damage from the critical. None of this touches on a threat, which is only defined based on the threat range, what the natural die roll is, and whether or not it hits. The warforged Construct Lock feat (Races of Eberron 119) requires threats to work against [[SRD:Construct|immune foes]] to function. Therefore Lightning Mace works against foes not subject or immune to "critical hit"s or "critical"s. Blood in the Water doesn't work on these foes, as it uses the same "''successful'' critical hit" language. Roundabout Kick says nothing about being successful and only uses the words "score a critical hit", which could go either way with the existing rulings but by caution falls in the doesn't work on immune foes category. -[[User:Cedges|Cedges]] 04:26, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
