Difference between revisions of "Talk:Necrotic Cyst (5e Spell)"
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Gr7mm Bobb (talk | contribs) (Thoughts on the subject maybe I'm wrong though. Kinda feels like its telling the DM how to be a little be with the check, kill condition, and downtime.) |
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Maybe it's just me, but a DC 20 check for a 2nd level spell seems really intense. Why not follow the spell save formula and at worst provide disadvantage. Also, does the creature still get incapacitated if the cyst is removed with magic? I really like that it's a super story board spell, but it seems really bossy for a 2nd level spell. Even Bestow Curse is pretty benign compared to this "Bestow Cancer".--[[User:Gr7mm Bobb|Gr7mm Bobb]] ([[User talk:Gr7mm Bobb|talk]]) 14:48, 7 December 2017 (MST) | Maybe it's just me, but a DC 20 check for a 2nd level spell seems really intense. Why not follow the spell save formula and at worst provide disadvantage. Also, does the creature still get incapacitated if the cyst is removed with magic? I really like that it's a super story board spell, but it seems really bossy for a 2nd level spell. Even Bestow Curse is pretty benign compared to this "Bestow Cancer".--[[User:Gr7mm Bobb|Gr7mm Bobb]] ([[User talk:Gr7mm Bobb|talk]]) 14:48, 7 December 2017 (MST) | ||
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| + | : This spell was intended as a compromise between Hex and Bestow Curse; so i'm surprised you consider it fiercer than Curse. I'm not sure what you mean by "''bossy''", the spell just lays out all the various methods by which it can be cured '''after''' the victim has failed their initial save. | ||
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| + | :* It's a magical effect, you could use dispel magic. This is also true of bestow curse. | ||
| + | :* It's cured by anything that removes diseases. Bestow curse is removed by anything which cures "curses". | ||
| + | :* It's a concentration spell that ends if the caster loses concentration, that works until it's cast as at a higher level. This is also true of bestow curse. | ||
| + | :* It's counted as possession by an undead creature. Can't prevent/treat Bestow Curse this way. | ||
| + | :* It can be excised by a difficult & dangerous medical treatment. Can't treat Bestow Curse this way. | ||
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| + | : Overall it's easier to remove than bestow curse would be. The incapacitation and possible death are only risks when attempting surgery. I could remove the option for mundane medicine checks to cure the disease but I'm not sure that does anything but make the spell stronger (by removing a way to ameliorate the condition). It's also concentration-free a whole spell level earlier than bestow curse, and on '''that''' point I'm already a little uncertain. [[User:Vaegrim|Vaegrim]] ([[User talk:Vaegrim|talk]]) 16:18, 7 December 2017 (MST) | ||
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Maybe it's just me, but a DC 20 check for a 2nd level spell seems really intense. Why not follow the spell save formula and at worst provide disadvantage. Also, does the creature still get incapacitated if the cyst is removed with magic? I really like that it's a super story board spell, but it seems really bossy for a 2nd level spell. Even Bestow Curse is pretty benign compared to this "Bestow Cancer".--Gr7mm Bobb (talk) 14:48, 7 December 2017 (MST)
- This spell was intended as a compromise between Hex and Bestow Curse; so i'm surprised you consider it fiercer than Curse. I'm not sure what you mean by "bossy", the spell just lays out all the various methods by which it can be cured after the victim has failed their initial save.
- It's a magical effect, you could use dispel magic. This is also true of bestow curse.
- It's cured by anything that removes diseases. Bestow curse is removed by anything which cures "curses".
- It's a concentration spell that ends if the caster loses concentration, that works until it's cast as at a higher level. This is also true of bestow curse.
- It's counted as possession by an undead creature. Can't prevent/treat Bestow Curse this way.
- It can be excised by a difficult & dangerous medical treatment. Can't treat Bestow Curse this way.
- Overall it's easier to remove than bestow curse would be. The incapacitation and possible death are only risks when attempting surgery. I could remove the option for mundane medicine checks to cure the disease but I'm not sure that does anything but make the spell stronger (by removing a way to ameliorate the condition). It's also concentration-free a whole spell level earlier than bestow curse, and on that point I'm already a little uncertain. Vaegrim (talk) 16:18, 7 December 2017 (MST)
