View source for Talk:Finem Temporis Videre Volo (3.5e Epic Spell)

== Ratings ==
{{Rating |rater=Leziad
|rating=dislike
|reason=I am with Sulacu here. Also it a bit too absolute, essentially making it unusable for both an antagonists or a PC to use.

I mean you'd have to beat it bit fiat. Also I don't see how immunity to Quantum Tunneling or Particle Decay would prevent a deity (or overdeity for that matter) from altering you. I mean I understand why, but not ''how'' it has this result.
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{{Rating |rater=Sulacu
|rating=dislike
|reason=I'm not a particular fan of any spell in this particular line of impossibly high DC'd Latin Chanting, for several reasons.

I don't really mind the ridiculous DC, or the absurd price, or the effect, even though it's trite and long-winded. Fuck me, though, I have to read a thousand words before I even get a clue as to what this spell intends, because it lacks something like a simple designation that most people can understand.

Even if you can handle downing half a novel to get to the jist of what this does, if you really look at it objectively you will come to realize that if by the time you can use this you haven't attained some form of immortality yet, then you're simply not doing things correctly.

Sure, it does more than ''just'' make you immortal, but by the time you can beat a DC 2,000+ Spellcraft check, you WILL have all these things. This spell's insane DC is what makes it obsolete in the first place.
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{{Rating |rater=SecondDeath777
|rating=favor
|reason=This is just...way too fucking deep. I read the whole thing, and, despite its length, I was enthralled, and never felt like it waste my time. Once you're within even a 50th of that DC, you could just rig a D20 to be a nat 20 and get it anyway, so I'm really not complaining there. The rest is tough, but doable. But really, why ever cast it? It's like wanting to be Rick from Rick and Morty. There's infinitely many things you could accomplish, but existence just feels like a dim, hollow lie. You become unkillable, but you're destined reach a point where death is all you'd ever want. This is not a spell. This is a warning. A warning with one simple message: 

Never cling to life. Life is empty, cruel, and meaningless. Enjoy what you have, but know that it is finite. So if you become infinite, you will outlive your lot, and lose everything. Everyone has a time, not because the universe is cruel enough to kill you before you've seen everything you want to, but because it's considerate enough to let you off the ride once you've had enough. 

"Don't pity the dead, kid. Pity the living." 
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@[[User:Leziad|Leziad]]: Well, It's kind of less a spell and more an idea. In another discussion page, Hammer said once you hit Elder Spells, you're probably at a point where the game isn't fun anymore, so most of them are deific feats of grandeur. They're kind of how you "win" d&d. A character of this indestructibility would be unkillable (unless faced with something specifically built to counter it), sure, but the aim of this spell isn't game balance or some big, crazy plot device. It's point is either to make you question the implications of power this immense, or to be your endgame. With the other Elder Spells, you could physically enslave every deity of opposed alignment, rid the world of anything and everything you find distasteful, forge a new planet elsewhere, and use your god slaves to make it ideal. The name of the game here is ending the game. What better way to do that than become the baddest god who ever was? -[[User:SecondDeath777|SecondDeath777]]  13:16, 18 September 2017

==Just Saying==

This one was difficult. -Hammerhead.

== Latin ==

"Volo ut Videret Finem Tempus", literally translates to "I want, so that time would see an end" (or possibly "I want, so that it would see end time", but that makes less sense). Is this what you want to say? If you meant to say "I want, so that I might see the end of time", which makes more sense (at least to me), that would be "volo ut videam finem temporis". If you meant to say "I want to see the end of time", thats just "finem temporis videre volo".[[User:TheDarkWad|TheDarkWad]] ([[User talk:TheDarkWad|talk]]) 14:07, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

:It's supposed to translate to "I want to see the end of time." So, Finem Temporis Videre Volo it is. I'll see about figuring out how to change the title on this. If you can, check out my spells Ostium tuum Alicubi - Deus, est Fidelis Servus - and Locutus sum, et Vidi Stellam. (Door to Somewhere - God, a Faithful Servant - I Speak, and See a Star) -Hammerhead.