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==Introduction==

You are wrong, Quantity over Quality! As the name suggests, the shiva build is all about being a many-limbed creature. Players that want to acquire more than six arms, are not troubled as much by how to get more arms, but more so, how to balance weapons with arms, and what feats exploit extra arms the best. The below build is one of many potential way to do so. Gaining eighteen arms, all with equally powerful weapons, and an average damage per round of 2,803.5!

== References ==

This build uses this very short list of homebrew (with balance points in parentheses): 
#[[Lesser Thri-Kreen (3.5e Race)]]
#[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)]](VH)
#[[Extra Rage, Variant (3.5e Feat)]](M)
#[[Practiced Attacker (3.5e Feat)]](H)
#[[Product of Infernal Dalliance (3.5e Feat)]](VH)
#[[Weapon Focus Eiji Variant (3.5e Feat)]](H)
#[[Extra Arms (3.5e Feat)]](VH)

==Progression==

'''Starting Ability Scores (Before Racial Adjustments):'''  Str18, Dex14, Con12, Int8, Wis14, Cha8 (32 point buy)

'''[[Lesser Thri-Kreen (3.5e Race)|Lesser Thri-Kreen]]:''' 
*{{Property Link|Racial Ability Adjustments|SRD:Strength|+2 Strength}}, {{Property Link|Racial Ability Adjustments|SRD:Dexterity|+2 Dexterity}}, {{Property Link|Racial Ability Adjustments|SRD:Intelligence|-2 Intelligence}}, {{Property Link|Racial Ability Adjustments|SRD:Charisma|-4 Charisma}}:  
*''Ek-Zoh Subspecies:'' Gain an additional +1 bonus to natural armor.

Traits:
*[[Publication:Unearthed Arcana/Traits/Hardy|Hardy]]: +1 bonus on Fortitude saves; but, -1 penalty on Reflex saves.

Flaws:
*[[Publication:Unearthed Arcana/Shaky|Shaky]]: You take a −2 penalty on all ranged attack rolls.
*[[Publication:Unearthed Arcana/Weak Will|Weak Will]]: You take a −3 penalty on Will saves.

{| class="zebra d20"
|+
! rowspan="2" | ECL
! rowspan="2" | Class
! colspan="6" | Ability Scores
! rowspan="2"  |[[BAB|BAB]]
! rowspan="2" | AC/Flat/Touch
! colspan="3" | [[SRD:Saving Throw|Saving Throws]]
! rowspan="2" | Feats
! colspan="3" | Gold and Gear
|- 
!Str||Dex||Con||Int||Wis||Cha
![[SRD:Saving Throw#Fortitude|Fort]]||[[SRD:Saving Throw#Reflex|Ref]]||[[SRD:Saving Throw#Will|Will]]
!Pre||Transaction||Post
|- 
|1st||[[Publication:Unearthed Arcana/Boar Totem Class Features|Boar]]-[[SRD:Barbarian|Barbarian]] 1||21||16||12||6||14||4||+1||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+4||+2||-1
|[[SRD:Diehard|Diehard]]<sup>1</sup>, [[Practiced Attacker (3.5e Feat)|Practiced Attacker]], [[Product of Infernal Dalliance (3.5e Feat)|Product of Infernal Dalliance]], [[Extra Rage, Variant (3.5e Feat)|Variant Extra Rage]]
|140||two [[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitars]](-30)<!--With so many limbs, it is hard to find a place to put armor!-->||110
|-
|2nd||[[SRD:Fighter|Fighter]] 1||21||16||12||6||14||4||+2||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+6||+2||-1
|[[SRD:Two-Weapon Fighting (Feat)|Two-Weapon Fighting]]<sup>1</sup>
|2030<!--1920+110-->|| ||2030
|-
|3rd||[[SRD:Fighter|Fighter]] 2||21||16||12||6||14||4||+3||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+7||+2||-1
|[[SRD:Combat Reflexes|Combat Reflexes]], [[SRD:Two-Weapon Defense|Two-Weapon Defense]]<sup>1</sup>
|4590<!--2560+2030-->|| ||4590
|-
|4th||[[SRD:Fighter|Fighter]] 3||22||16||12||6||14||4||+4||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+7||+3||+0
| 
|7790<!--3200+4590-->|| ||7790
|-
|5th||[[SRD:Fighter|Fighter]] 4||22||16||12||6||14||4||+5||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+7||+3||+0
|[[SRD:Psionic Weapon|Psionic Weapon]]
|12,270<!--4480+7790-->||one +2[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitar]](-8315)||3955
|-
|6th||[[SRD:Cleric|Cleric]] 1||22||16||12||6||14||4||+6/+1||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+9||+3||+2
|[[SRD:Greater Psionic Weapon|Greater Psionic Weapon]], [[Weapon Focus Eiji Variant (3.5e Feat)|Variant Weapon Focus]]<sup>1</sup>
|10,355<!--6400+3955-->||one +2[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitar]](-8315)||2040
|-
|7th||[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|Sivatar]] 1||22||16||12||6||14||4||+7/+2||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+11||+5||+2
|[[SRD:Multiweapon Fighting|Multiweapon Fighting]]<sup>1</sup>
|11,640<!--9600+2040-->||one +2[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitar]](-8315)||3325
|-
|8th||[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|Sivatar]] 2||25||16||12||6||14||4||+8/+3||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+12||+6||+2
| 
|16,125<!--12,800+3325-->||[[SRD:Gauntlets of Ogre Power|Gauntlets of Ogre Power]](-4000), one +2[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitar]](-8315)||3810
|-
|9th||[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|Sivatar]] 3||25||16||12||6||14||4||+9/+4||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+12||+6||+3
|[[SRD:Improved Multiweapon Fighting|Improved Multiweapon Fighting]]
|19,810<!--16,000+3810-->|| ||19,810
|-
|10th||[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|Sivatar]] 4||31||16||12||6||14||4||+10/+5||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+13||+7||+3
| 
|42,210<!--22,400+19,810-->||[[SRD:Belt of Giant Strength|Belt of Giant Strength+6]](-36,000)||6210
|-
|11th||[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|Sivatar]] 5||31||16||12||6||14||4||+11/+6/+1||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+13||+7||+3
| 
|38,210<!--32,000+6210-->||one +4[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitar]](-32,315)||5895
|-
|12th||[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|Sivatar]] 6||34||16||12||6||14||4||+12/+7/+2||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+14||+8||+4
|[[Extra Arms (3.5e Feat)|Extra Arms]]
|53,895<!--48,000+5895-->||[[SRD:Ioun Stone|Ioun Stone, pale blue]](-8000), one +4[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitar]](-32,315)||13,580
|-
|13th||[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|Sivatar]] 7||34||16||12||6||14||4||+13/+8/+3||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+14||+8||+4
| 
|77,580<!--64,000+13,580-->||one +6[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitar]](-72,315)||5265
|-
|14th||[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|Sivatar]] 8||34||16||12||6||16||4||+14/+9/+4||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+15||+9||+5
| [[SRD:Greater Multiweapon Fighting|Greater Multiweapon Fighting]]<sup>1</sup>
|85,265<!--80,000+5265-->||[[SRD:Ioun Stone|Ioun Stone, incandescent blue]](-8000), one +6[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitar]](-72,315)||4950
|-
|15th||[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|Sivatar]] 9||34||16||16||6||16||4||+15/+10/+5||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+17||+9||+6
|[[Extra Arms (3.5e Feat)|Extra Arms]]
|116,950<!--112,000+4950-->||[[SRD:Amulet of Health|Amulet of Health+4]](-16,000), one +6[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitar]](-72,315)||28,635
|-
|16th||[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|Sivatar]] 10||39||16||16||6||16||4||+16/+11/+6/+1||15/12/13<!--3Dex+2natural-->||+18||+10||+6
|
|188,635<!--160,000+28,635-->||[[SRD:Manual of Gainful Exercise|Manual of Gainful Exercise+4]](-110,000), one +6[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitar]](-72,315)||6320
|-
|17th||[[Nataraja (3.5e Prestige Class)|Nataraja]] 1||39||16||18||6||20||4||+16/+11/+6/+1||20/12/18<!--3Dex+5Wis+2natural-->||+19||+12||+10
| 
|246,320<!--240,000+6320-->||[[SRD:Periapt of Wisdom|Periapt of Wisdom+4]](-16,000), [[SRD:Ioun Stone|Ioun Stone, pink]](-8000), three +6[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitars]](-216,945)||5375
|-
|18th||[[Nataraja (3.5e Prestige Class)|Nataraja]] 2||39||20||18||6||20||4||+17/+12/+7/+2||22/12/20<!--5Dex+5Wis+2natural-->||+19||+15||+11
|[[Extra Arms (3.5e Feat)|Extra Arms]]
|325,375<!--320,000+5375-->||sell: two Scimitars(+15); buy: [[SRD:Gloves of Dexterity|Gloves of Dexterity+4]](-16,000), four +6[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitars]](-289,260)||20,130
|-
|19th||[[Nataraja (3.5e Prestige Class)|Nataraja]] 3||39||20||22||6||20||4||+18/+13/+8/+3||22/12/20<!--5Dex+5Wis+2natural-->||+22||+15||+11
| 
|420,130<!--400,000+20,130-->||sell: four +2Scimitars(+16,630); buy: [[SRD:Manual of Bodily Health|Manual of Bodily Health+4]](-110,000), four +6[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitars]](-433,890)||35,185
|-
|20th||[[Nataraja (3.5e Prestige Class)|Nataraja]] 4||40||24||22||6||20||4||+19/+14/+9/+4||24/12/22<!--7Dex+5Wis+2natural-->||+22||+18||+12 
|
|595,185<!--560,000+35,185-->||sell: two +4Scimitars(+32,315); buy: [[SRD:Manual of Quickness in Action|Manual of Quickness in Action]](-110,000), three +6[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitars]](-72,315)||412,870
|-
|colspan="17" class="foot" |
#Bonus feat from class
|}

==Class Features of Note==

===Cleric===

Select the Trickery and War cleric domains

==Highlights==

===Stats==={{Sidebar|Skills|'''Skills:''' <!--36 total ranks(8+0x4+0x1+2x10+2x4)-->
:+14 <small>Balance (5r+7Dex+2sy)</small>
:-5  Bluff (1r-6Cha)
:+16 Climb (1r+15Str)
:+0  Disguise (4r-6Cha+2[[SRD:Disguise Kit|kit]])
:+8  Hide (1r+7Dex)
:-3  Intimidate (1r-6Cha+2sy)
:+18 Jump (1r+15Str+2sy)
:+1  Knowledge(religion) (5r-4Int)
:+15 Perform(dance) (8r+7Dex)
:+16 Swim +16(1r+15Str)
:+15 Tumble (8r+7Dex)}}
'''Ability Scores:''' Str40<!--18(base)+2(race)+14(equipment)+6(normal character rise)-->, Dex24, Con22, Int6, Wis20, Cha4 
*Str and Con are raised by 4 when in a rage

'''HP:''' 15d8+4d10+1d12+40(136)<!--1x14+3x2+4x2+6x2-->
*+40 temp HP when raging
*fast healing 14 (Lasya Dance)

'''AC:''' 10Base+7Dex+5Wis(see nataraja)+2natural+18(multiweapon defense) = 42
*-2 to AC when raging
*+2 to AC when in trance

'''BAB:''' +19/+14/+9/+4

'''Saves:''' fort+23, ref+18, will+12
*+2 to Will saves when raging

'''Rage 12/day'''

'''Speed:''' 30’

===Limbs===
'''Arms''' (4natural+4[[Sivatar (3.5e Prestige Class)|class A]]+6[[Extra Arms (3.5e Feat)|feat]]+2[[Dopple Arms (3.5e Spell)|spell]]+2[[Nataraja (3.5e Prestige Class)|class B]]), 18 total:
*Attack: 19BAB+6(weapon)+15(Str)+2(rage)+2(weapon focus)+1(synchronicity)-2(multi attack)= +43/+38/+33/+28
*Damage: 1d6(base)+6(weapon)+15(Str)+2(rage)+4(weapon focus)+4d6(greater psionic weapon)= 44.5 Slashing
**all arms wield +6[[SRD:Scimitar|Scimitars]] (<span style="color:Green; ">'''homogeny exists to reduce the amount of math after every minor change, you are encouraged to buy more variety'''</span>).

'''DPR, against AC 40: <span style="color:Green; ">2,803.5'''</span>
*Arms 1 through 18 Deal: ca. 155.75 per round (each)
**Math: 1st(5d6+27)=44.5x.80=35.6, 1stcrit(44.5x2)=89x.15=13.35; 2nd(5d6+27)=44.5x.75=33.375, 2ndcrit(44.5x2)=89x.15=13.35; 3rd(5d6+27)=44.5x.50=22.25, 3rdcrit(44.5x2)=89x.15=13.35; 4th(5d6+27)=44.5x.25=11.125, 4thcrit(44.5x2)=89x.15=13.35

{| class="zebra d20"
|+ Limb Break Down by Level
! Level || Arms || Arm notes || Weapons || Weapons Available 
|- 
| 1st || 2 ||Has two additional very weak arms (cannot attack).|| 2 ||two Scimitars
|- 
| 2nd || 2 || || 2 ||two Scimitars
|- 
| 3rd || 4 ||Two arms weak (can use weapons one size smaller).|| 2 ||two Scimitars
|- 
| 4th || 4 || || 2 ||two Scimitars
|- 
| 5th || 4 || || 3 ||two Scimitars, one +2Scimitar
|- 
| 6th || 4 ||All arms are at full strength.|| 4 ||two Scimitars, two +2Scimitars
|- 
| 7th || 5 || || 5 ||two Scimitars, three +2Scimitars
|- 
| 8th || 5 || || 6 ||two Scimitars, four +2Scimitars
|- 
| 9th || 5 || || 6 ||two Scimitars, four +2Scimitars
|- 
| 10th || 6 || || 6 ||two Scimitars, four +2Scimitars
|- 
| 11th || 6 || || 7 ||two Scimitars, four +2Scimitars, one +4Scimitar
|- 
| 12th || 8 || || 8 ||two Scimitars, four +2Scimitars, two +4Scimitars
|- 
| 13th || 9 || || 9 ||two Scimitars, four +2Scimitars, two +4Scimitars, one +6Scimitar
|- 
| 14th || 9 || || 10 ||two Scimitars, four +2Scimitars, two +4Scimitars, two +6Scimitars
|- 
| 15th || 11 || || 11 ||two Scimitars, four +2Scimitars, two +4Scimitars, three +6Scimitars
|- 
| 16th || 12 ||The cleric spell ''[[Dopple Arms (3.5e Spell)|dopple arms]]'' gives two temporary arms.|| 12 ||two Scimitars, four +2Scimitars, two +4Scimitars, four +6Scimitars
|- 
| 17th || 13 || || 15 ||two Scimitars, four +2Scimitars, two +4Scimitars, seven +6Scimitars
|- 
| 18th || 15 || || 17 ||four +2Scimitars, two +4Scimitars, eleven +6Scimitars
|- 
| 19th || 15 || || 17 ||two +4Scimitars, fifteen +6Scimitars
|- 
| 20th || 16 || || 18 ||eighteen +6Scimitars
|}

===Disguise===
Skills: 
*Bluff -5
*Disguise +0
*Hide +8

Spells:
*[[SRD:Disguise Self|Disguise Self]](1st): +10 to disguise
* [[SRD:Obscuring Mist|Obscuring Mist]](1st): Fog surrounds you.
* [[SRD:Darkness|Darkness]](2nd): 20-ft. radius of supernatural shadow.
*[[SRD:Invisibility (Spell)|Invisibility]](2nd): Become [[SRD:Invisible|invisible]] 1 min./level or until you attack.

=== Tactics ===

=== Challenging Monsters ===

== Side Notes ==

=== Limitations ===

Unless in a completely unnatural environment, this build will receive more than the occasional stare. Disguises and invisibility can help keep off the mobs, but of course, impend the builds ability to deal damage. The party will more than likely see the builds true form after the first battle. This does not mean they will know it is your true form (you can always fool them into thinking it is a monstrous wildshape, cursed form, etc.); but it may be to your advantage to inform at least one of your party members of your “ailment” – letting them know that you need their help making a disguise in public areas.


Anything with more than 2750HP, will have to patiently wait another round. This amounts to about 10 level 20 characters, with high hit points or AC.

====Tricks for the DM==== 

=== Variants ===

The [[Harmless Form (3.5e Feat)|harmless form]] feat helps one become more sociable without depending on outside support.

The [[Berserker (3.5e Class)|berserker]] class is much better than the traditional barbarian.